@niclas I don't think redistributing wealth to billionaires is socialism
@Hyolobrika Did I hurt your feelings? I agree that I am stretching the definition, just a little.
Just like many people say that we have Capitalism in the West (we don't), it is likewise easy to claim that "Welfare" is a sure-tell-sign of socialism, and "Welfare to Corporations" is more prevalent than one can imagine...
@niclas This is basically the one-drop rule applied to political ideologies. "To be capitalism one must have an absolutely free market but to be socialism it is sufficient to have a little bit of wealth redistribution".
"Free market" and "forced wealth redistribution" aren't the only definitions of "capitalism" and "socialism" though btw. Some people think socialism is compatible with a free market (and historically, they seem to be right): http://www.minorcompositions.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/MarketsNotCapitalism-web.pdf
You didn't hurt my feelings btw.
@niclas @bonifartius Yeah. Apparently some of the original socialists (i.e. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon who corresponded with Marx) were pro-free-market.
According to the second essay in the book, Marx wasn't the only one to think up the idea. Proudhon and Josiah Warren got there first.